Hello, and welcome to the fifth class of the ultimate visibility formula. This is the second to last class of the series. And we actually have three, including tonight or today. So we've got today's class, and it is about what do you do after you've been interviewed? It's really important process, right? There's a before there's a during the interview, and there is an after the interview.

And after this, we've got our live q&a. And I'm going to ask you, you're going to set the agenda. I'm just showing up for you. So as many questions as you have situations, whatever it is, just bring it with. Yeah, bring it with you. And yeah, we'll have a great time at the QA.

I believe, everybody just about Come come to the live q&a on Thursday and If for whatever reason, you can't I mean, I really rather it be a full live class so I can serve you. Right? That's the only reason I'm doing this is this is your opportunity for anything you've learned here or any experience you've had outside of here with interviews or even anything you think about or worry about. Work curious about. Bring all that. If you have something you've been working on homework wise and you want to bring it we can project it and talk you through whatever the pieces feel free.

So it is your time. So three classes, this is the fifth. Then we've got our QA and then our final wrap up, which will be next week, and that'll be session six putting it all together. So, glasses please, we're going to share the screen Terrific. So today, as I said is session five, what happens after you have been interviewed? great conversation?

What does happen after you've been interviewed? Well, hopefully a lot is happening because that's where you establish a relationship. That's where you potentially can get asked back to a show. Or perhaps they have a recommendation for you to be on another show. And that's really where the magic happens. I've had amazing things occur to me both ways, both somebody who's been on my show, and because they showed up and we're so much service, there's still in my life.

I've made friends I've made colleagues, lifelong relationships, certainly not with everyone, but with a lot and it has changed my life and changed my career so positively. So what what to do after the interview The conversation today and what we'll be talking about is starting a course with our weekly celebrations of wins here and always in the Facebook group, how to be asked back again what that takes building relationships with influencers, and we all know how important that is that can really move the needle. The people, you know, the people, you surround yourself, frankly, the winners that you connect and collaborate with, they are game changers. They have been for me game changers, or people who have seen my work and known me and respected me. I humbly say thank God, because when somebody with a name or with clout came along and said, Gee, I need somebody to fill in the blank.

I was recommended. That's how I started doing red carpet interview work. Frankly, I would have never gotten there if somebody hadn't been intimate with my interview skills. And a really big opportunity came up. And this woman said, I don't know who I'm going to bring in, because I don't know who I can trust. I don't want people taking pictures of the celebrities or using it as a vehicle for themselves.

And I need somebody good because this is going to be footage that we use going forward. And a particular person who's a big influence or said, I know In fact, let me connect you with her have a conversation, I promise you, it'll be a done deal. It was it was marvelous, was a great opportunity. I was so happy for it. I fulfilled it. Of course, I was completely nervous my first time and then once I got on the red carpet, I was fine because I thrive there.

I think we all do. We're so nervous, the things we don't know and have done before and then we get the mic going. We get the camera going, we're connecting with somebody else and it's really all okay. I was asked back every single year to do it. Other people saw me doing that. And then I then got invited to other red carpet movie and startup big startup company events.

So that's just one example of the many, many doors that have opened up from being connected to an influencer. What when you're interviewed and you know that before, during and after you do become known as an expert. You become known as an authority. There's very little work you have to do. That's the beauty of it. And how do you get out your interview, I would say use everything at your disposal.

Perhaps you have a particular site that you use or pay for where all your social media is grouped. Send one thing out, and in sending that one thing out when you send that one thing out, goes to all your social media, your Twitter, your Facebook, your Instagram, LinkedIn wherever you're at. So I highly recommend that you at a bare minimum, set up sending out your interview, tag your host include one thing that was a takeaway from your interview. And do that a couple of times, a couple of different days, weeks months, just keep getting it out there. It's a win win when you do that, because your host station is also going to be promoting you. So you get to know their listeners and audience and your followers database will start to get to know their show.

It's a very nice compliment both ways. The other thing is if you have a newsletter that goes out, please be sure to send it out in a newsletter and announce it if you don't do a newsletter and instead you have an email set of friends. Colleagues, family, send something out to them. Listen, I was on this show this practice alone. This practice alone sets you up in a whole different class, that you are an expert. You are an authority.

The reason is people keep seeing you be interviewed over, over over over again. And something happens because they think of you first for the next job opportunity interview panels speaking gig. It just happens of its own volition. This is why I wanted you to send out a minimum of 10 different submissions during this class, you can do way more after because I want to make sure that you're being booked on interviews. I want to make sure you start having that viral experience and people noticing you're really out there. You really doing this.

There's something to be noteworthy About you connected to your subject and field, you stick in people's minds. What I want you to know is you are stronger than you think. And that's my mantra today. That's our mantra going forward. And I give this to you that you can say I am stronger than I give myself credit for. I can do this.

I am strong and limitless. You can do anything. If you want it, you can do it. The question is, what is your Why? Why are you wanting to be interviewed? What will being interviewed bring to you think about this?

Why do you want to be interviewed? Well, we're being interviewed bring to you to your life to your career. What will it do for you? What will it open up for you? What will position you as? How will being interviewed bring ease in your life?

Who will you meet by virtue of being interviewed. Make your wife big enough. And you can do this easily. Zero struggle, zero suck. Total alignment with your y pulls you forward quickly and brings great things to you. So that said, why don't we just share here and just pop you know, like popcorn and just let us know why do you want to be interviewed?

What is your Why? What is it going to bring to you? Why was this subject even fascinating to you? What do you know, could happen if you do this successfully and what may be happening to you already through the course of this program? So just unmute yourself and go ahead and and sing out Why Why was more just to educate, I don't know if educator but my whole thing was I just need to touch the masses I need for them to understand the power that they have. And to bring that to them and awaken them to that that's my whole big why my whole thing has always been I just got to get to the masses, I got to let them know what they what they're capable of and how to do it and how easy it is.

That's my whole why. Cool, and you have any ideas, desires about who you could potentially meet who you'd like to meet the kind of people you'd like to attract? No, I don't know if it's good or bad, but no. Okay, well, you know, have a vision of that because that vision can pull you forward. You know, maybe the kind of hosting show you'd like to be on the kind of venue. Maybe there's a podcast a radio show that you listen to is like, gosh, if I could get on that show, how great would that be?

Have an aspiration make it big, right? The bigger it is, the better it is. And we want a big bad dream meaning good, great dream, because it really propels us forward. And when you wake up one day, and you're actually doing that interview on that show, it's an amazing feeling. So have a really big picture, along with the why. And if you don't know a particular show, then have in mind a particular audience.

Like if I could reach these people and start here, or really connect with these people, this would be amazing. This could be a game changer. I think I always go beyond that. I'm always like, I'm on my own podcast. me so I should probably go there first. And then go good, then go to the further one.

But that's always been my goal. Like I know for years, I've always said I want to have a podcast. I want to be able to be out there and talk to people. So I'll read it in a little bit like Okay, wait a minute. Let's start here first. Yeah.

Yeah, that's great. And you know what? And you can, you're not anybody here can. I'm gonna just ask Jennifer to mute herself. So funny. All right, I get this a tiny bit of noise that pulls, pulls the whole screen away.

So yeah, you can do this. And, and we're going to show that just for now, just because you're learning this skill. And here's the deal, especially with what you do. Both sides are important and completely different, not the same animal at all. So to have these skills down and feel really comfortable here will be wonderful, and make you an even better podcast host. Should you choose to do that?

Because you'll completely get what it's like to be the other person. And you'll also have a better idea of how to interact and curiosity questions and how to drive a conversation. So good on you. And we're going to just show the podcast idea hosting right right now. But yeah, absolutely. Anybody here can do that if they want to.

Excellent. Thank you. Yeah. And you can talk to me about that if you want offline. Cool. Anybody else who wants to talk about what what's your why is why do you want to do this?

What will being interviewed bring to you for you open up for you position you as and what kind of ease will it bring in your life? Yeah, I think for me, I started out wanting to be able to be a podcast got a guest to give me clarity, right? clarity in my message clarity in the ease of talking to people. And where I am today is I really want it to be a platform that I build my expert on. That people hear me and say, Oh, yeah, that's the person I need to go to because she knows how Do that. So that's that's where I'm at with that.

Well, I love that that's so specific because what you can do that's your Litmus, right? So anytime you're interviewed based on results, non results, tepid results, hot and heavy results, you'll start to know what skills you've picked up. And if you're actually creating that, and if the skills are off, you'll know there's some tweaking so that people do start seeking you to be that expert to work with coaching bring into their companies. So I love that and use that as the bar. Yes, what actually happens? Love that love that.

I will use that as the bar. Yeah. Great. And I've quoted you by the way, Kathy, this week, I gave you credit. I had a Thank you. Yeah, in a call with a marketing guy who actually wants to book me on the show, and I don't know what the conversation was, but I I quoted you because I heard it in your interview.

I've got a colleague, and she's a genius. And she, this is what she works with and, and she said, You don't hire for overwhelm you hire for weakness. And I just love that line. To me. That's a tweet. That's a meme.

It's just so powerful. And it's a whole different way of looking at things. So I also want to Bali to you keep saying things like that. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else?

Why you want to be interviewed? What interviews will bring how it might position you What's your Why? I have a y that I can share. So my Y is to help today's generation of children become healers in the future. So I want to show them that whatever situation they're going through right now. It's just temporary and that trauma that they're dealing with can all go away by healing themselves and after healing themselves they can actually go out and help heal the world that's amazing because when you say that Purcell especially if you want to reach children, there is a couple of directions you can go being interviewed and that you can focus on so this is going to really help you narrow the lane.

You want to find family shows, kids shows I actually I want to connect you with a kid who's got a superpower podcast this kid is like a rainbow kid. Like really amazing. No kidding like, I don't even know she's tiny little thing has her own podcast show. It's a real deal. She's been doing it many years writes books and stuff. You'd be great.

With her for the superpower experts, and also mom shows and obviously healing shows New Age, metaphysical, even law of attraction kind of things. So right there and that's like, that's a lot of shows, but it's gonna make it so easy for you going out there, look at family, Mom, kids New Age stuff done, and that's your audience. So you're going to start being able to bring those people in, and make sure at some point, even if you get a sentence to do it, and clearly this is part of your message. Make sure you put that in there because it's a call to action. Right? And you may have something else you may have a you know, 15 minute conversation with me and you schedule it here or go to my website and there's a free report or whatever it is so that people can connect with you and start to create that dream with you.

Perfect. Thank you. Yeah. Anyone else? Your Why? Who's on first?

What's on second? Oh gosh, if I'm dating myself. Okay. So I know we have several people here, but they're also on phones and they may not be able to talk. So I'm just going to go forward. And thank you all for sharing.

Let's see weekly celebration. I'm very curious, who's been interviewed so far? How is it going? And, or Endor? Have you booked you don't have to say the name of shows. It's not an import.

But I am curious how that's going if you're actually starting to book using the list that I gave you and how that processes I actually over the weekend. And I received a call from an independent filmmaker. So I don't know if this counts as a celebration because it's not a radio or podcast. But she wants to interview me for her documentary for Netflix. Really? So what is the subject herself?

Healers? Perfect. I'm How did she find you through another friend that actually she was a client of mine that works for Fox and Disney. And so she connected me with her. And so we'll see. That's amazing.

I'm so so so happy for you. And yes, that's a massive celebration. So first of all. Thank you. And second of all, I know we have a call coming up. So if you want to bring that up, amongst other things, we can definitely talk about that.

That'd be great. Thank you. I've been interviewed on documentaries. And it's pretty amazing. I have to say, so don't worry. Yeah, I was really shocked when she asked me and then I actually said yes.

Because in the past I would have been let me think about it but it was like yes, I'll do it. That's wonderful. So whatever is changing in your space keep riding that wave because that yes to this documentary, right? It's just going to create more, you're just going to invite more in and I think the yes will also show once you step into it, how very capable you are already. Thank you. This is great.

This is already making your dream come true. Love it. Thank you big winner. Anybody else interviews bookings finishing your homework. Also, your mock interviews. So for me, I did not I did not ask 10 I did not send out 10 email podcast requests I did do for up to this date and i'm doing i'm just doing research who's right who you know.

So one of them that I did came from your list and then the other three I found on my own. So I've put out four requests. And I've received three yeses. I scheduled one and I needed I received a couple other yeses just today. So I need to schedule those. So four letters went out.

Three people want to interview me, one is scheduled and two, I'll work on scheduling tomorrow. So I'm happy with that. Yeah. That is a good rate of return. Right? It is, you know, Debbie, it.

It is the power of the way you assisted us in putting that letter together. And You know, just to have being able to say this is my reach, because they're saying, I know on the other side, they're saying, Wow, she's Dustin, like she's in this right. And and there's so much power in that. So thank you very much. Thank you. Great point.

I'm so glad you brought it up. And first of all, high five, high five. Thank you What a win. That's first of all amazing ROI. To put out four, get three and here's the deal. It's so new in the game, you don't even know about the form, right?

Some people will take a couple weeks. I know sometimes I do. So that's still a viable possibility. And the fact that you use the word vested as to what you're talking about, and the reach and what you're talking about, about what you're willing to do, once you're interviewed and how you'll also support the show and cross promote. That's such a good word. And that's exactly what we feel, you know, We interview somebody and it goes out to them.

And it literally sits out there in lala land and they, they haven't taken a moment to say thank you. They haven't taken a moment to send it out to their people. It is such a lost opportunity. And although I understand with compassion that many people, they may just be saying, I'm too busy. I'm just too busy right now or I'm in the middle of a book launch. You know, the truth is, it is a win win.

And the moment you send something out there is just a synergistic magic that happens when the host and the guest both do the work. So it doesn't end during the interview. And there isn't after the interview, make sure you do that. And this is another way to build that influencer relationship. We know that you're really in this and you play to win, and we will bring you back. Beautiful.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Pleasure. Anyone else, Renee. You did your You did your What was that?

Your mock interview? How was that for you? That was good. You know, I certainly I certainly know I was rambling on. So, um, so it's just a matter of, you know, bringing that all back. And that was great feedback.

Because, you know, as I've been listening to other ones and, you know, hearing the, you know, the conversation between the two, you know, so it's a matter of like, yeah, leading that and my husband's back in town. So him and my son is as well. So now I'm going to set him up with them, which we were going to do some tonight and tomorrow. And then I'll listen to those and see what happens, but I thought it was good. Besides rambling. Exactly.

You know, for all of us. There's always a place. There's a pattern we each do. And that's our week. weakness. And then we've got all these strengths.

So the idea is these strengths are what they're gonna pull us forward, they are going to make a great interview. And this, right with just gentleness and kindness, we start tweaking it mindfully every time we do an interview, and it does get better and you listen back, and it's better and it's better and it's better. So whether you have a pattern of saying a particular word over and over, or it is rambling, or it is going on a tangent or whatever your or is, just be super mindful about it. And when you do that, you'll knock it out of the ballpark. So good on you. I'm so glad I love listening to the mock interview.

It's great that you posted it. Yep, thank you. And, and thank you all, by the way, because it's, it's such a I'm always so critical. I don't know if that's right. I'm really fearful of criticism. You know, so it was the That fear of posting it in and actually said, you know, did, aren't you posting it?

And then I was like, I really can't figure out how to. And then I was like, Okay, well, good, I just got to do it. So and I knew that this was a safe space. So thank you all for that. And I knew that okay, anything that being said, is just to help enroll. Good.

So thank you all. And thank you, Debbie. Yeah, it's great. It's fun to get those examples too. so other people can hear what other people are doing. And you all are welcome to do that anytime.

And you've actually been great at posting on the Facebook page and asking for support in the different pieces here. So keep going, keep going. Here's a couple of tips based on some of what we've talked about when you're being interviewed. Use the host name. And I'm going to say often, but not every time you ask your question. So if something is asked, let's say the host name is Sam, I don't want to say well, Sam, that was a great question, Sam.

I'm glad you brought that up. Well, like that's overkill, right. But if a call times during the interview, I bring up Sam or the hosts name. It creates an intimacy. And what happens the listening audience doesn't know. But they relax and they feel like they're listening to a couple of friends or colleagues having a conversation.

It also was very endearing to the host. It's really a great way to connect. Use the host name now and then during an interview, don't ramble. Remember, every show is a time limit. And every show has a host. That is curious, they brought you on besides thinking you're a fit for their listeners, because they really want to talk to you.

So think about being at Starbucks, think about sitting down for your coffee or tea. And you there's things you really want to learn. And you're going to learn them from this person. So if your host you're gonna learn them from this person, and if you're the guests, you're going to be giving advice. bring great advice. You don't have to save Right, you're not giving everything away, you couldn't possibly give everything away that you know, in 20 minutes, 10 minutes, 30 or even an hour, but really share your content and your value.

Trust me, they will love you for it. So a couple of things. I'm going to head back here real quick to our okay. Yay, celebration. So here's some after the interview. We've talked before about doing a thank you.

Right. And thank you. I think anytime I'll never forget when I I threw dinner party's right for a while and I'd have people come over there was an event. And there was one fellow in particular, no matter what the very next day he would call was so gracious. And he always said, Thank you so much. It was such a great event.

I'm so glad I came. You did an amazing job was very short and brief, but it really touched me. And to be honest with you, I had never thought about that. I'm like most people are so busy. Went to the event wasn't that great. And I started to realize how nice it was to take a moment to thank somebody for doing something simple, takes 30 seconds a minute done and out.

We want to do the same thing with our hosts. You get to do it any way you want. I mean, if you're actually connected via phone, feel free to do voice to voice email is what you got. Send something like that. If a letter is something you want do that There are ways of being really personal about it, and letting them know. You loved it, why you loved it.

And as I shared with you before, if they made you money, if they move the needle in your business, then absolutely send them a gift or a card, make sure you reach out to that Starbucks card is great. Doesn't have to be a big deal or American Express or whatever. Okay, cross promoting. We talked a little bit about using social media, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, sending out the email or the newsletter, you can put a link to your interview in your signature. So many of us have an email signature, that little area at the bottom of each emails that you send out from your personal work email account is one of the most underutilized pieces of marketing real estate. So you can say, Listen to my interview on now, if it's a big podcast, Use the name with the link.

Or maybe again, the takeaway, like in Kathy's Kathy's meme that I want to see created, it could be learn why and how to really hire fam, right? Or something compelling, like a headline that's going to get people to want to go there. You can also take your interview and create 15 second sound bites from the show content. So every host either sends you the mp3 file or honestly more often, here's the link and there's a way for you to download it. When you get a copy and always get a copy of your interview. Always, always have a file you keep it on.

You can you can repurpose it by the way, many different ways. One of the ways is you can use it to create your own audio grams, which is an audio thumbnail, it works on social media, it works on websites, you know in social media, they give us just A tiny amount of time and then you're out. The smaller the file, the better. So you could do these great soundbites. Have your business up there, what you do, and maybe the rest of the link to the interview you decide. But you can use these and have really great results.

You can take the interview, of course, as long as the host agrees to it, and you can transcribe it and make it into a blog. I'm going to tell you right up front, I think you will get 100% Yes, because essentially, every time you reach out to a host and say, I would like to do this, is this okay with you? They will always say yes, because you're getting them out there. Their name will be attached to more marketing that you're doing. They may have a request and they say, do you mind putting in my website, do you mind putting in my Twitter handle whatever, it's fine, it's absolutely fine because it actually becomes more like a show note. After you know, at the bottom of podcasts, they have shownotes.

And they will often have links to things that the guest talks about. So it's very nice to offer this in reverse to the host. In addition, you can create a page on your website that will house your interviews must do this. Why? Because somebody goes to your website tootling around, wants to know if your pro hire you bring you on a TV show or something else. They see this page and they're like, oh, they've been on this show that show that documentary that TV that magazine done.

This is a pro they got this. In addition, you can give other companies and contacts. A shout out in your interview. Now for any of us who have ever dipped our toe into sponsorship and seeking sponsorship. You know, this is everything. Why because and for those of you who don't when we have a sponsor, who's paying for and supporting the show the value We bring are the people we're going to send to them for their business.

And one of the many ways we do that is speaking of them in our interview. It's also great you know, somebody hired you, and they're part of your story or you've got a client and, and of course, you have their blessing to say their name. Yeah, give them a shout out. It's wonderful. And then you can always go to them and say, Hey, whatever the company is, or sponsor or contact client, by the way, you might want to listen to this interview you're mentioned and put in a really great light. Also, you can sneak in mentions of non competitive brands or contacts.

So your time is a great way to allow you to play a little bit, bring some kindness to other people. Just remember with the caveat, we are never salesy, because salesy is the greatest turnoff to the audience and to the host, so don't go there. But you can have some fun building relationship. We all want to learn the etiquette of how to approach the host in the beginning. So how do we get our foot in the door? Well, the pitch letter you've got the media, one sheet you put together.

That's really it. And you know, I think I posted at least three different examples of pitch letters on our Facebook group. So feel free to go back there. And they're all really different. You can find your style at this point, one will fit you more than other. There's a classic, here's a more casual and they're all great.

Just use one and fill in your information in the blanks. We also want to know with hosts what to do after we've just talked about them, how to thank them. You may have a really unique way you want to thank them. That's wonderful. Maybe you have a service you want to say I really like to gift you with a done at us session or on You know, my book, I just, here's the truth, actually wouldn't ever bring up a book, there might be another product you have or something else or not. The reason why I'm going to pull back a bit on the book is because if you're being interviewed and you have a book, you're going to send them the book.

So that really isn't viable. And it's very important to note that every post mostly is d losed. With books, we have people come on the show the set who give them to us and send them to us in advance. We have publishing houses, agents, we go to events, and people spot us and say, Oh, you're leaving the event. Here's a copy of my book happens to me all the time. And I have to say, I don't have room in my luggage.

And they don't know the bubble over my head is actually I don't know you. I have no relationship with you. There's no way I'm taking your book and reading it, not the pile I got going on. So it really doesn't work. I wouldn't even bother doing that with people. If you have a book unless you first have have a relationship with them.

And of course, the most important thing about after, how can I be of service to you? Worst question, because many times we go blank. Now once in a while host may say, great, I'm doing a launch or do you know anybody other any other influencers? Who would make great? Yes, that's wonderful. However, you might want to be very specific about how you can be of service to them.

And here's something else, perhaps you finish the show you send a thank you follow up. What if you reached out two weeks later and said, Ah, I remember you mentioned this before interview during the interview. I wanted to follow up with you and see how that's going. You could just be super friendly and start building a relationship or I recall you mentioned this ex, and I happen to know somebody who acts, you know what a warm introduction be interesting to you. These are amazing ways to build influencer relationship. So whatever is indigenous organic feels right and light to use that because of course, that's what will work very well fly very well.

Always leverage the podcast, it is a win win as I've, as I've shared with you. And when you build relationship into what you're already creating with networks and hosts, there is a deep connection and it goes way beyond the show way beyond the media experience. And you will start to realize what interviews can lead to. If you have limited time, and frankly, we all do job children, hobbies, relationship, career, all our endeavors and media writing and so forth and traveling. So you have to find the way that works for you. It's not a black and white.

It's not a yes or no, it's in or out. It's how can you do interviews with ease. And with time management? Well, hopefully with the skills you've learned here, you'll feel a lot of these when you're on air, or connecting with somebody on a podcast or camera, whatever it is, and the time management, you've really managed a lot of that because if you've done your pitch letter and media, one sheet, you basically send that out over and over again with the caveat that always dear you put the hostname in there, take a moment to read it before you send it and then something very specific about them in their show. So this is a really great way that you can you know, I really wish I could take this out. I maybe you don't see this and only I see this Okay, so one of the great ways that you can get your database followers, clients, family, friends, whatever it is to be involved with what you're creating is to send out an email.

So content that's real content that really provides value. It's so it's compelling. It's intriguing. It's what we want to hear to learn something new, something we didn't know before. That's the most important thing to bring. Remember.

When in doubt, don't go milquetoast at all because there's a gazillion for each of us in our lane of what we do. What's going to cause you to stand out as it you You do know stuff that we don't know. You know, things we would love to hear. So we want to get a feel for your personal personality, be you. We want to know your expertise. And we want to feel this intimacy, like we're in the room with you an experience of who you are.

If you've ever listened to somebody on a podcast, and then met them in person, it's like meeting an old friend, right? Because you're you feel connected with them, especially if this is somebody who does a lot of interviews. And you happen to follow those interviews because you like them, know them, trust them, there's something they deliver that's very interesting to you, or entertaining or funny, or why is whatever it is. And then you see them. It's like, oh, that person. So know that the same is true for you.

The more you do these, and the more you really be you and really deliver, you will get to be that old friend and that person that other people feel that they're connected with. So because of this podcast interviews, they can be leveraged in sales processes. And here's a way that you could use Use them with prospects. So perhaps you have somebody you just had a conversation with and is potentially interested in your work. Maybe there's somebody who was interested in your work. And then you haven't heard from perhaps there's a potential client, or you've been introduced to a company who may want to work with you, interviewed you, but somehow you're on the precipice.

It was a hot, warm something there, and it's either gone cold or still warm. This is what you can do with your interview. And this is just a mock letter I put together, but you can see how, first of all, please see how short it is. Right? very concise, and it's to whomever from Debbie dash finger subject. podcast you may find interesting And what I might recommend is you put their name there because if you put someone's name there, it's different.

So you might say, Keith, here's a podcast you might find interesting. Or Okay, Rob, I guess it has to be, because that's who the letter is addressed to. Hi, Rob. In our last meeting, we spent a lot of time talking about the importance of you writing your book. Since your company is really pursuing new ways of becoming more visible and having a strong message this year, I thought you might find this podcast interview helpful. Name of the podcast the five essential building blocks to write a page turner book, Episode 27 of the XYZ podcast.

This was a really fun interview and cool to share this message in the form of a podcast. Give it a listen and let me know what you think. I hope this helps spur some great ideas that your organization can use a new levels of gaining exposure and having a strong media message. Cheers. Debbie, podcast host international best selling author, speaker, media visibility strategist consultant, red carpet correspondent. And then there's a little about me at the bottom.

Remember that real estate it says what I do. And then it also has a link to my website. So you can use a letter like this after your interview another way to repurpose your interview and send it out to people. And once they hear you if you know, wow, that was a good interview, I'm proud of that. That's the kind of thing I would like potential clients and companies to hear me on, use it. So I want to actually I'm going to go back to this later.

And I'm going to go back to that later. So I just want to stop here and talk a little bit about how I got where I got So you understand a little bit about my story, because here I am in front of you, most of you are here, because what I do out in the world has caused visibility. So you know, me somehow and trusted me enough to join the class. So there's a backstory, right for all of us. There's a backstory, how we got where we got. And I also want you to know that your story is very important.

You may not always have time to tell it. But most often, it's going to come up when you're being interviewed. So it's so important to have your story down and know where it begins, where it goes, and where it ends, and that you have a hero or heroine story, without a doubt. There's a very particular way to do that. So I also want you to know that when I tell you this, I don't have anything memorized. And that this is not to create anything other than a connection with you.

So you really understand me and understand that I understand you. And I'm here because it was my calling to support people. So I started out as an actress, I was an actress and a singer for the majority of my life. I loved it. It was my dream. It was everything for me to be on stage or camera.

It was the most comfortable place on the planet for me to be. I loved making people laugh. And I did a lot of character work at so it was a prolific career for a long time until it wasn't. And I was an adult, and all of a sudden, something changed. And it's that Crossroads that people have where they say, Oh my god, I don't think I want to do this career. anymore.

For me it was terrifying because I had literally, I'm not kidding when I say come out of the womb, singing it acting like that's all I ever wanted to do. I think at five I was going to summer stock. I'm not I really, this is all I did. So it everybody in every grade school, high school, college, etc Nunez. And so something changed. And it was a year where I got cast in the most amount of things.

I didn't know what to do. Because it was my identity, and it wouldn't stop. And things started to happen that were showing up. That don't happen for an actress. I would get a script and be casting something. And I didn't want to memorize lines and I didn't want to flesh out the characters like oh, that's not good.

So I had a lot of resistance going on. And that's what happens anyway in life right? You can't ignore the knock knock at the door. So I finally did the only thing I knew how to do, which was surrender, give it up and say, I don't know where this is going or why this is happening. And I have no idea what I could possibly do, because this is all I've known. But I know I have to let it go.

And I did. And so it would be as beautiful story if I said, you know, and then the next week, something happened and I figured it out. But that wasn't my story. It actually took over three years. And that's a really long time. When you're creator, when you love having your hands and stuff.

When you love being a professional, so I did the only thing I knew how to do after surrendering, which was to start saying yes to things that felt right to me. And the first thing that I said yes to was Toastmasters. I wanted to learn how to speak joke is that everybody thinks Oh an actress you must have done so well in Toastmasters all contraire, I actually wanted to throw up. It was so painful for me when I did my first speech. I mean, I could wait for it to be done. I was awful, awful, I confess.

But I kept going back and I kept going back until I got my gold medal. And something God spurred in me and I said, Gosh, I think I want to be a motivational speaker. So I had a connection, right an influencer, who connected me to companies in Los Angeles, and boom, I was booked, I was starting to go around and do this wonderful was a workshop called balance of life and goals. Because at that point in my life, I started to realize how to create dreams. And I was like, ah, I got a recipe. This is so important.

So I'm doing these, these talks, I'm loving it and at the same time going, this is not quite it. Then I took a jewelry class and I love jewelry. I was making jewelry and people saw it on me and then would say, Can I get that necklace? Where did you get that necklace? I tell them, I made it. they'd want to buy it.

And I went, Oh, I think I have a viable business here. Within three months, I started selling in stores across the US. And that was at a time when jewelry really was a renaissance when it was all handmade is a great time to be in that business. And I did that and I loved it until I didn't. I also I was pegged by somebody to come audition for a big band. And I got the gig.

So I started singing for a big band. And then we also had a jazz combo smaller jazz combo. That was pretty amazing. I have to say I loved it. And it was a tremendous amount of work, but I loved it. I love being out front doing that because that was a big comfort zone for me.

And while I was doing that, there was a lot of joy in my space. I knew that none of this was for me. No Have those careers, but it was joy, because I was creating and doing and being in the spotlight because I was pretty clear that my, my soul's genetic makeup was created for that. And while I'm doing all of this, I get a call from a producer saying, I do cartoons. We had a big celebrity, she had to drop out. We went to some producers and asked for actresses.

And we're going to do some additions. And we have to do this quickly and fold the role. Somebody recommended you and I said, Oh, great. And he said, I'm going to send you the script. We'll set up the interview. What he didn't know is I had never done a voiceover in my life.

I'd never done a cartoon had no idea what I was doing. But I said yes. And he sent me the script and I fell in love with it. We did the audition, and I sucked. I totally bombed and i know i bombed because there was no laughter and I felt this character should she was quite mean She was quite a biting character, but I felt she should have been funny. So I said before we hung up, please, please just Can I have one more read?

Would you just let me do the read? He said yes, boy was I lucky. So I did the read again with an accent. And it was so perfect because I figured if you're going to be a rough character and say rough things, a southern accent will go really far. So I got the part I made him laugh. They found out I sang they wrote a song.

They didn't have to bring in a professional singer to do it. And I am telling you at the best time my wife went on this is it voiceovers for cartoons, got an agent was being sent out all the time on auditions for voiceovers, and I hated it. Why she was sending me out for commercials narration aren't totally dry, not me want to cartoons. So I'm trying to take my career into my own hands and I suddenly see something that says radio 12 years ago radio, looking for a host. And I'm like, Oh, that's how to get how I will get my voice out there. I answered the ad, I got the I got the gig.

And I started out doing a music show, right playing music, and was cool. I mean, I have a huge background in music. But I wasn't loving it. And I kept saying you can leave anytime you want to. anytime you want. You don't have to show up and keep doing this.

But I did, thankfully keep showing up. Because one day, the station manager called me in and said, Hey, we think you're doing a great job. We think you've got something here. We'd like to give you your own show. And why don't you consider it and come back and tell us what the name will be and what kind of things you want to do, you know, be a talk show. And I went home and it was like a download of everything of my entertainment of my motivational speaking of all the things that I was stepping into spiritually.

It was just this huge amalgam plus the idea of creating dreams. I went Dare to dream. I want to talk to people have created really outrageous dreams. I want to know what they've done. And I want to open up a world to my audience that they can do it too. Thus my show was born.

The people came on masterclass changed my life. And what was very interesting was, I wanted to get the information out more. So I wrote books, I wrote my first book, dare to dream this life counts became an international bestseller, second book, wisdom to success, third book, PR magnet all international bestsellers. And along the lines, even after the first book, I started having radio shows come to me and say, we'd like to interview you. Now. I had my big dream.

I talked about a big dream before. I always wanted to be on 103 point five in Los Angeles, like oh my god, Martin came in the morning, and it happened. So I actually got invited to that show. Here's what I want you to know. That the very first time I was invited, and I was so surprised anyone looked at me as an expert. And originally I was being interviewed about dreams, creating dreams.

I want you to know how freaking awful I was, like, I'm pulling back the curtain here. This woman asked me a question, and she was pretty big in the world. And she asked me one question, thank God, this was not 103 point five, by the way, that was way down the road. But this first show asked me one question that I've gotten all the way to the end of the show. Oh, my God, and I didn't know till I listen back and I was just more to find. Clearly she never asked me back.

So I made tweaks and the next show was a little better. Not really By the third show fourth show, I realized, I'm trying to be somebody I'm not. I'm trying to figure out what the audience wants to hear and deliver that. And I have no actual idea of who I am. Like just stepping into me fully. And I'm finding this is fascinating.

I would have thought being a host on a show and being so successful would easily translate to being a guest. Maybe it does for some people, but I gotta tell you, for the majority of us, totally different skills. So I decided I wanted to learn and I took it on. I researched and researched and researched I did like a personal dissertation on how to be an amazing interview guest and then I start implementing and seeing changes happen. We get a client, my books would sell. Other people would learn about me and invite me to places I got asked on panels.

I got invited to other places and states and countries. To speak, I mean, the world started opening up to me. And then something very unexpected happened. People started coming to me and say, I would like what you have. Can you teach me how to be interviewed? Okay, started a business.

I would like to write books. Can you teach me how to write a book? You bet. I'll teach you how to write a page turner at that. Then people said, I want to be an international best selling author Can you do that created a company literally that did it does it for authors, and thus, my knockout, my knockout media training programs and company was born. So what's interesting is that just from being interviewed, and learning how to do it correctly, it opened up all of this for me, and even being here with all of you.

I started giving these Feels to my clients and seeing them get amazing results. What's your dream is always the question. I start out with any client, I want to know what their dream is. So we can create it. And seeing them go out in the world and live these dreams out loud, was huge for me. What people didn't know along the way, is that visibility was one of my core wounds.

So when I grew up, very interesting circumstances, I had a father who was a Holocaust survivor. I didn't meet him till I was five. And I had a mother who was extremely present for my brother and I. But she was quite involved with feeling unhappy about her life. She I she wasn't doing a career. She was a music teacher.

She was not doing what you really want to do out in the world. She was saddled with two kids that are pretty young age. Doing it all alone at a time when it was a little rough to do it all alone, and she wasn't a happy camper, and then just wasn't a lot of oxygen in that house. Which is rough for a very sensitive kid. So there was not anyone to talk to. Now, thankfully, I want to give you another piece.

I had grandparents who are phenomenal, phenomenal. And like my angels. So I had a lot of love there. At home, no Dad, Mom, not a lot of touch. Not all ever. A lot of I love you and certainly no one to listen to me.

So what I did with that information is I figured out between my mom and dad, that I was the one in common. And I figured out that must mean that I shouldn't be heard. I shouldn't be seen. I shouldn't say a lot. And that created an enormous awkwardness in me and actually an inability to communicate A lot, unless I was extremely intimate. It was always like a tiny handful of people where I felt comfortable.

Outside of that I was an I was a hot mess. Trust me a hot mess. So the duality was, as I said earlier, I really grew up knowing I was here to be visible. I knew that because I've been doing that microphone stage, you know, anywhere I could perform, loved it. And yet in real life, meaning outside of the stage, there was this voice that was quite demeaning to me. And, you know, I have a choice.

I'm either going to live with this voice in my head and let it be my God. I might as well be genuflecting to it or I'm going to make a different decision. So it was incumbent on me making a different decision which I did that I was going to go on a healing path, whatever it took, because being in pain was not an option. So I did what was in front of me. I was involved with wonderful things that massively changed me one at a time, what at the time, and I really came out the other side feeling like all these pieces of a smashed puzzle or glass that I was had really come together and I felt quite solid and real and able to embody myself. Now did it come up still, although I feel quite healed, did it come up?

Especially in the beginning, when I was doing new things, oh, my goodness, you bet. Anytime I was up leveling, and I had another opportunity voided those doubts come up. And boy, do I know what it's like to turn down things go now. I don't think I'll speak now. You know, thank you. I'm busy.

Or I don't think I could be interviewed on that. Or, you know, it really In fact, interestingly enough, the more I healed, the more that voice doubt, and don't be seen and don't be heard, became prevalent. So here's what I learned. I learned that a life is a journey for all of us, and that no matter what we heal, there will be triggers. There will be times that things come up. And you manage it.

You manage it in real time. And I also learned that I was going to be a hell yes person, that when something happened, that caused that voice to trigger I was going to say yes, anyway, that's what I'm here for. And if my why is that nobody will ever suffer the neglect of feeling unheard or unseen or not understanding how special they are. And the gifts that I see in them to share out in the world. If I don't do my Why, why am I here? So I have been a hell yes instead.

And Excuse me. Here's what I want you to know that I also learned along the ways that so many people who inspire me and think about the people inspire you. They have all had really painful events in their past. Right? I'm not alone in this. And I used to think that the events of my childhood, and my past defines me and now I know that what I choose defines, I define me.

So I chose not to let my beginnings define who I was. And what happened to me was a really short chapter in a much greater story. I would have never known that I would spend time with Steven Tyler of Aerosmith True story. And it's a great story. But I have intimately spent time with him that I would spend time with Melissa Manchester, who was a award winning composer singer song writer and has invited me to her shows that I would have the three tenors Sing hallelujah to me on a red carpet that I would spend time with john Salley, the four time NBA champ and he would approach me because we got along so well and talk about I think we should collaborate let's do a show together. Like, wow, that paula abdul would spend time with me that Arnold Schwarzenegger that Ian McShane so there are so many people I've met literally influencers, because I said yes to having a radio show and yes to being interviewed, despite the level of doubt at time, or not knowing how to show up in some of these situations, right, but just grabbing the mic, the opportunity the camera and saying yes Everything I went through afforded me the insight that I have today, like, on some level right meant to happen, I would never have the wisdom or the insights that I in particular have.

And you all have your own amazing insights as well. And they've guided my life. It's allowed me to help others. So they become the experts so they can go out and share what they're here to teach, and what they're here to shine a light on, and that other people, other professors become confident in an interview and learn to easily use media visibility. So you and I can choose to never again suffer the neglect that any of us may have had, or maybe coming up just thinking about being interviewed. I know for sure it is time for you to shine your light.

And it's time for you to step into your greatness and all of this is an opportunity for you. Media visibility is available to you to get your message out to the world to be seen. So you Connect with your community. It is time. And I know you're here because you feel that it is time. Your past gave you the insight that you need to share yourself powerfully today in interviews in media and outlets.

They say that when the teacher is ready, the student appears. So I'm so grateful that all of you chose to be here. And I say let's work together toward one common goal. And that is to have you shine in media. I think. In fact, I know that media is magical.

And so it is and will be for you to thanks. Thank you for letting me share my story. I really wanted you to know where I came from, how I got here, and how I so understand with great compassion, what people go through I also want you to know that I see you. And that's part of my wheelhouse is to be able to see the pieces that are not working. Well, weaknesses we'll call them and what can be done with them so they become your greatest strength, and some of the brilliance you have, that we work on. Because you don't even know it like a mechanic who's not working on his car, you've got your brilliance, and usually you're sitting right on top of it, and it's pretty damn magnificent for all of you.

So we have tools, I talked about tools, and I could actually open it up if that's a benefit. And while I do and while I open up the tools to show you, if anybody wants to just check in right now, please feel free. Just unmute yourself. I want to thank you for sharing your story, Debbie, it's such an inspiration to see that you went from that hot mess to this beautiful goddess. So thank you for that. That could be my moniker from a hot mess to love God.

Yes. That's very good. Yeah. Cool. Well, it's nice to get to know each other. I agree.

Thank you, Debbie and recite. You said that perfectly. So thank you. I'm going to open up this page. And this is available to all of you right now. So let's hit share, and we're going to go to a website that I've sent to you and this is just for you.

So it's Debbie de DBB ID dotnet slash tools. And this is where you can access anything you might need for being interviewed. So visibility and interview recommended tools, here's any of the technology that you'll need. I'm just going to keep it simple and show you quickly so you know what is here. The microphone. The ring light, think if ik my page is finally up, I've got about five different programs there right now I am.

I am so thrilled because they've made it stupid easy for all of us to do. And it looks like a website. And it's not and everything is drag and drop. Once you get this is your link here and the reason why I have a special link for you is it gives you three months of thinking a fixed business plan for free to set up your own online courses. It's great way to make money. It's th and k.cc slash Deb.

Yeah and I mean everybody actually all the biggest companies Xerox and this and that all the companies and influencers you know using it so really well worth it to check out th nk.cc slash Deb here is if you want to get graphic designs, books, websites, something you're doing for being interviewed, whatever, this has the everything and this is also a special link for you Webinar Jam and zoom Of course, which we're working on right now. If you want to landline here's a great budget pic for you headset for the landline Click Funnels if you want to go that route for marketing, selling and delivering products and services. I want to be very clear that Click Funnels is completely different than thinking think if ik so make sure you go to the right site for the right thing and that gives you a 14 day free trial that link if you want a webcam like the one I'm on by Logitech highly recommended.

If you start this way, you may not need to invest in the microphone, right the Yeti microphone or in the headset, etc. This is pretty spectacular equipment. It's really terrific. It's HD and the sound quality is beyond so good and makes you look fabulous. So that's the webcam you can get. And this page is just up for you DB ID dotnet slash tools.

So go there, check it out. That's for you. And I want to tell you about what's available next. As you know tomorrow or bonus QA so be there. Live, ask whatever. Bring it.

And if for whatever reason you can't be there, definitely write in your question to me in advance so that I know Don't you know, don't wait 15 minutes before I get on because I'll miss it, I won't see it. And you could just post it in your Facebook group that would that would actually be most helpful. If you have a written or video testimony this week or next week, I would love for you to send it to me. Deb on the radio@gmail.com and I'm going to ask you to say who you are, what you do and what's changed by virtue of doing this class. Of course, it'll really help other people find the class to who may resonate with you. I want to remind you where we started, here we are again, you're stronger than you think that's our mantra today.

Today. I am stronger than I give myself credit for. I can do this. I got this. I am strong and limitless. You can Do anything if you want it, you can do it.

So let's come back. stop sharing. And we are, it's magic this. So there's after this, this is five QA, then we've got the sixth class wrapping it up. I want to let you know what's coming up next down the pike. So you're ready for it.

There is an advanced group that's going to start and I'll show you that in a little bit. This is going to be talking about and teaching some of the things that you just can't. This is a it's not a basic class. It's not an opening class because you're going to be fully functional. However, there are things we absolutely couldn't have time to do. Because most Important thing here is to get a really strong architecture and confidence about getting out there and just start doing it.

So there's going to be things like private coaching, prep before you have a big event. You can email me your interviews. So I let you know what you did well, what needs tweaking, improvement, sort of thing. Inner visibility, healing work, how to deepen your message. You will get the 411 How to be a publicist, basically, so you don't have to hire one publicist here in LA are $5,000 a month on retainer and up. You can manage this on your own when you understand how to do it behind the scenes.

You already have your pitch letter and your media one sheet. I'm going to show you the places and spaces where you can do this on your own and save yourself a lot of money. Also, how Do you do sound bites? What would your sound bite be? How do you share a statistic? What should your story be?

And what's the proper way to do a story, also how to build your media page. So there's all that more, and I'll go through it a bit more in our after together time are short after together time, and also down the pike. Not now. But several months out, there will be a three day live event you will all be invited to and that's going to be very intimate and yummy. And that's going to be a lot of work together in an environment where we can really do some significant work on visibility. So that's all what what we have to look forward to.

I'm super excited about it. And I'm super excited to continue working with you guys. So I just want to ask you here in the last time we have if anybody wants to do some coaching You would like to do a mock interview if you haven't yet with me. Let's do it. And let's see what you got. Russell, have we done this yet?

Mock interview? Uh huh. No, I don't think so. Would you be willing? Oh, sure. Is that a question?

There's some doubts. Okay. So I will be the host, you will be the you interview guest and see where it goes. Sounds good. Welcome to Dairy Queen. This is Debbie Josh finger.

And it's my great pleasure to have Russell you here today. Marcel, welcome to the show. Thank you, Debbie, for having me. Pleasure. And first, I want to start with you explaining a little bit to the people what is the work that you do out in the world today. Wonderful.

Well, thank you for Asking, I'm actually a quantum healer. And what I do is I help people understand that negative emotions are preventing them from really having the life of their dreams. And yeah, see, I already messed up sorry. And so, um, you know, I just I help them to become very aware of their past traumas and give them the tools so that they can overcome that. Hmm. That's, that's interesting.

I think that's pretty well known that negativity breeds negativity. But what I'm curious about when you say that is, what kind of changes can the work you do create or what changes has it created for the people you've worked with? Well, it really depends on who's coming to me. There's a lot of I work with a lot of children and a lot of The kids. They don't have necessarily the best home life. They don't have the support.

They don't have. They may have a single parent family. And so they go into certain situations where they're joining gangs, or they're not doing very well, in school right there. They're not only being bullied, but they are also the bully. And so what I do is I help them to identify what triggered these, and those trapped emotions and I help them release it. And once they actually release those emotions, they're no longer the bully, they're actually happy.

They're feeling lighter, they're feeling more joyful, and they're actually giving back to the world. And after the healing has taken place, I teach them how to heal themselves even more, and how to heal others. And so not only did they just did a 180 on themselves, but now they're giving back to the world. I will That's amazing to me. So the kids that you work with who have a healing, they are open to learning the healing Why? What?

What compels them to want to learn the healing? You know, it really it's I don't know if you ever heard of that that anime show called Dragonball Z is this Japanese cartoon and what he does is he creates these energy balls with his hands and can and can just manifest anything. And so that's really what intrigues these children is that they can actually create energy, this invisible thing. And not only are they creating it, but they're able to change the world because of this energy field that they're creating. And this energy ball is filled with positive loving energy, and they just step in, and whenever they start feeling, fearful, abandoned, betrayed anything like that they just create this energy ball and step in That's I think what really, that's really what it comes down to is they just want to be an anime character. Oh, I have to tell you what I got goosebumps when you said that.

Because from a completely different place, it's amazing. You would talk about energy balls, completely different place. I have heard this before. I've been caught a technique about that. And you just put it in a different perspective that now I'm going to revisit that. As for manifesting, so thank you.

And when you talk about your work when you talk about the children, it seems to me it seems to me that there's a reason why you've aligned yourself with children and I'd love to know why. Why kids you could be working with so many other people healing, but why are you taking on children to heal? Well, thanks. It's been Because I was broken, and I was wounded when I was a little girl, there was a lot of trauma in my life. I was sexually abused. And when I would approach my mom and dad about the abuse, they completely ignored and dismissed.

And it changed. It sent my life into this very negative trajectory. And I always said to myself, if I knew then what I know now, about healing trauma and negative emotions, I'm going to give that child that opportunity to change the course of their life and know that there's that there's hope that they don't have to be stuck where they're at, and that they can actually begin to live the most beautiful and abundant life that they've ever dreamed. So you've been a broken child yourself, you've experienced abuse, what is different about You now, as opposed to when you were small, from your healing from the work you've done, I'm able to separate I'm able to see that what I had gone through in the past helped refine my life to to what I am now. It helped me to become this great healer because it offered me this compassion that I can give back to the world.

Okay, see? Sorry, that was like totally, I was like, totally off guard. So I'm sorry if I messed up. Good. This is what we want. Like actually because when you get on air podcast, the same feelings gonna come up.

Okay. It is a feeling of being put on the spot. Yes. So the last thing we want is for you to freeze So, okay, so May I give you an feedback. Yes, please. I felt that after starting about the second question, your energy completely changed.

Like I really felt you in the beginning. I felt this distance but starting on the second question and all the way to the end, I synergistically really felt you like and your comfort level got much greater as we went on. And so that was great. That was pretty yummy. I like that you looked at me, because that means whether you're looking at me or you're on a phone or on Skype or zoom, or however it is you're going to connect with the host that you're going to really be connecting. That's so important.

I like that you got in and out. And you didn't go on and on. But you really spoke to the question. And I thought it was interesting. You know, when you smile, by the way, it's like poof, totally sunshine. So use that And also I really felt you when you told the story about what happened to you.

A couple of tweaks, if something happens. Remember the word rather. So obviously, in real life, when you're being interviewed, you're never going to say, Oh my god, I messed up because it was a live show. Right? But just use the word rather, it's going to happen to all of us. At some point, we're going to either say something wrong or get caught in our own mouth in the words or maybe going on a tangent and realize a human attention.

We don't ever say out loud, we notice and then take a breath. Use the word rather and redirect yourself on the correct train tracks. Okay. So rather is our friend I would watch out for there's something you say, forgive me. Somebody else may may have heard it. I should have taken notes but it was easy.

And on something like an M and N, right? You're not the only one. I can tell you famous people do that. But you just want to watch out. Because what happens for all of us, when we have those patterns, when it happens over and over, the audience starts listening to that rather than our wisdom. So just try to be mindful of taking that out.

And you notice it. And I'm going to ask you to go into more specifics. So what you brought up was pretty amazing. Quantum healing. This is I do out in the world, this is who I work with. This is why I work with them, what's possible, how they turn themselves around, and then when they open themselves up to and your story and all of this is terrific.

I want you to give more specifics. So feel free to get in there and say, for instance, there was a boy you know, and of course, if you say Sam, nobody's going to know who Sam is. So whatever the kids first name is, and here was his problem. Nobody could help him. He couldn't even help himself. This was what was going on.

His parents brought him to me or he came to me or however it is you connected, we did really specific work on the issue of x. And it took several months, however, and then give me a little something that happened to Sam, where the light got turned on. And he saw the possibilities, right, where he broke through, and then give me the after. And now he's, you know, president of the Glee Club. You know, he's written a book, he's helping other kids, you know, he's part of a blah, blah, blah program, like, give me the after. This is the stuff that's riveting, and that I want to know it's going to really point out the power of what you provide.

Also your story, do the same thing. I mean, you you really opened up and thank you for trusting us with that information. And what it was like for you and feeling like you didn't have a place to go, that you understood what was happening for you, I also want to know a little bit more of the arc of your story, you know that maybe you took something on or you discovered this work, and then discovered Oh, on top of this work, I had the gift and a gift of X, Y, and Z. And when I put it all together, I realized what I was putting out in the world was really quantum healing and how it works is you know, at the sub particle level, I work with people and and give me a couple of things you do specifically. I don't know if it's weight issues, I don't know if it's confidence.

I don't know if it's, you know, really painful trauma or you know, could be an amalgam of a couple of things is fine, but let me know because that'll be the big connector for me what I resonate with, okay. And you have I know because of the people, the groups the etc, you work with and the success you have yourself You have stories, and you could just bring up a female client. If you don't want to go there or a first name that's so common, nobody would know. However you want to play that and say that, but the more you do that, the more you really pull us in. Okay. All right.

Thank you. Thank you for being so brave. That was awesome. High 10. Great. So I will talk to all of you tomorrow.

In the q&a. I look forward to it, bring it, bring it, bring it. And then we'll have our final class where we literally wrap up this entire beginning to end process and what that looks like for you. So I'm going to end the meeting. now. I'll ask you to stay for a little bit.

And thank you so much for joining us. This is the end of session five