You're set already a time and date that you want to pre interview the person and do hop on a call, it's a good idea to tell them, you know, the conversation will take about 30 minutes so they can plan better. So they don't feel like you're taking way too long or they didn't schedule properly. So it's just a courtesy to tell them you know, it's gonna be taking like 30 to an hour. And while you're on the call, start with a small talk. So you can break the ice stay away from heavy topics like politics and religion and, and then start digging deeper into their story. So tell me, can you share with me your story?

And then once they start telling you if you have questions, you know, take a note, don't interrupt them, take a note and then ask them you know, is there any topic or subject that is off limits in you do not wish to share that is very important. Then, because sometimes you read online about them or or you just want to ask them something. And you do that during the interview and they find it inappropriate or what I will do is always, always ask, are there any topics off limits? And let's say this is something that you really wanted to talk about, you know, probably there will not be a good fit for your documentary. I did a story on Colette Smith who was the first NFL player, woman NFL coach, and through the I did not know her I just wanted to interview her because she was the first female NFL coach.

During the pre interview on the phone call. I discovered that she actually is very passionate about giving back to the to her community and teaching young girls to play football or social passionate about domestic violence. All thought about sexual harassment victims, and she was raped multiple times. And she she asked me to talk about it during the interview, because she's very passionate about sharing her story. So other women would come out and share their story or deal with their story. You know, she wanted she wanted to do that.

So from that interview about, you know, first female football coach, NFL football coach, it became something more deeper, but then you have to see how would that fit into your story? Because sometimes you might have to do two separate shows, depending on your show, depending on what the what the focus is because you cannot focus on all these things. You can touch on something and dig deep. On another one, but the printer is the process that you have to go through and ask all these questions if she if they allow you to record the phone conversation do that but first always ask permission. So instead of taking notes, you're fully focused on pre interviewing them and printing I don't mean you to prepare questions and ask them because you want also while you interview them and you start rolling, you want also that spontaneous or things that you discover, adopt time, you know, and so for example, with Colette I knew she was right, but I did not do it multiple times.

So she said she wants to talk about that topic, but I did not dig deeper in the pre interview. So when we started rolling, I asked her if she said multiple times. So it was very spontaneous. The follow up question and that is the process that you go through with the person that you