Chapter 2, Verse 7

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Welcome, everybody what an exciting juncture for us that we are. Finally, finally here to protect the facade from chapter one and then move on to chapter two. So it's a very exciting time and we are really only 10 verses away from the teachings of nod. So it's, you know, it's something, imagine how many lifetimes it must have taken to come to this juncture. I'm emotional because I'm not a professional guitar teacher. There are people in India that's what they do for a profession, like for livelihood for vocation, they every two, three years they teach Gita that they start again then they start again.

So imagine what a blessed life they have. I'm a teacher of many things, many three sciences. And so I find it as a deep privilege to be able to not only receive Gita I received it several times, but to actually partake it and this will be the one time that I teach the Gita. So I personally feel as privileged to be Sitting at the feet of Lord Krishna because he, he is the jungle guru he's and we are all really the receivers of this man. What a fascinating teaching. And let me spend an hour and a half judiciously.

So I want to spend about 15 minutes reviewing After one, I want to spend 45 minutes talking to you about chapter one. No, I want to spend 15 minutes talking to you about chapter one another 30 minutes talking to you. And the rest of the time I want to introduce you to chapter two. So chapter one, for those of you who are been coming along and watching and listening to all the verses in the classes, it's we are now understanding that there is a presentation of a universal disease. And the universal disease is samsara. And, in fact, the whole chapter one is a presentation of that samsara But in short, from verse one to 20, we open into a magnificent battle scene, an ancient battle scene with elephants, horses, conscious spares, all kinds of things that we can imagine an ancient battle to be like very tense.

And that is what we come across in verse one to 20. And we also come across. Archer does never says go to the now is evil cousin. And we also it's not it's not clear, but it's like subtle and the teacher points out, look how he's talking to his teacher. Because later we have we have also another dialogue between you know, Arjuna and Lord Krishna, and those you know, was distressed. He went into a panic attack.

He never really was disrespectful ever. To Lord Krishna, there was this basic vision and this basic manners, this basic remembrance that I'm talking to somebody noteworthy even before Lord Krishna became his guru. He was still a mentor and advisor and uncle. Somebody respected in the community and a teacher like figure, let's just say a teacher, not just a guru, yet, definitely a very important person because between Lord Krishna has army and Lord Krishna himself. Arjuna had chosen for Krishna to be with him. So he got moral support from Krishna, and he never lost his demeanor towards Krishna himself.

Whereas we come across the Yoda now lambasted groaner left and right and kind of trying to shift blame upon him and also You know, his, his his his mannerisms are quite questionable. So in one to 20, we come across all of this. And then from 21 to 25 suddenly and this is destiny, that are just his, take me in the center of the battlefield a little closer to that other side. Let me survey and between 21 and 25 This happened he says, Let me survey the other side in fact and 23 He says, Let me survey those with the those people with those pretty corrupted consciousness or supporting this derivative this disturb minded cousin of mine is quite justifiably angry. I mean, after all, it had been years and years of, you know, mishandling abuse, disrespect, cheating. All kinds of things that the, he and his brothers had been receiving at the hands of, you know, video that I and his brothers said, so take me and between 20 you know, 21 and 25 you know, they talk and then Krishna takes him there.

And, you know, in verse 25, he says, you know, by shut down some of his crew, because, you know, now he was his chariot, Krishna and are the chariot that not Krishna was, you know, navigating individuals, you know, was the judgment, the important person who was going to be in the war. It was state it was situated in such a central location that he could see the whole clan because it was really one clan split up and the clan was known as the KU clan. And, you know, on one side with a bond of our brothers on one side or the core of our brothers, we're Really, children have two blood brothers. So he says, you know, Lord Krishna just says this one thing, look, you can see your entire plan. When he sees familiar faces, everything turns and suddenly instead of seeing people who have been evil, who've been a dharmic, who've been unjust, who have been corrupt, who are molesters, who are, who are you know, murderers who are you know, looters.

Now, he keeps using that one word So, genom kickstart see my people, my people, my people, so, there is a change and from 26 to 28, we see the emergence of what is known as raga or attachment the different raga high is an attachment Which is irrational, which is emotional in nature, not real, not rational, it's irrational. And we feel like our whole life depends upon something so everybody can like tea or coffee. But raga would be when we develop an addiction to it, even when we are told it's not good for if we cheat and go and drink it on the side. So that's called raga. So the Vedas are not against us enjoying the coffee, or relationships, what they want to, you know, alert us to is a raga where sometimes some judicious distance between a loved one and a cup of coffee, maybe exactly what you know you need for your health and the planet cells.

But raga Hall will not allow us to come out of to even think of a new solution because we are so warped in our attachment to things being where they are, so we see amply in turn between 26 and 28 especially Verse 28 is important Mark back one, where he starts lamenting oh I see my uncles and my maternal uncles and my in laws and my eggs and he keeps repeating himself also. So then I'm sorry not my people, my people. So from rather hide the disease of samsara, high emotional turbulence, after raga, her attachment typically what follows is shoka or grief. And so between about 26 to 28 is raga. And somewhere in between the raga has starts turning into shock or grief. So we see between 25 and 34, lots of lamenting, you know, grief, sorrow, and then from 35 to 47, we see full blown delusion, more and more high is shown by when everything is reversed.

He starts feeling like he's the criminal, because he has come here to avenge justice. He forgets that he's come here. To actually stand up for what's right, what's truth. And he's saying, Look at me, I've come to you for a minor kingdom. Look at me, and I'm going to kill my own people, what for kingdom. And finally, he concludes in verse 47.

With this, I would just stand there without any weapons, and I would rather be killed by them. So I would be, I would, I would not even want to pick up a weapon, I would just rather be killed by this army. And that's the right thing to do. That's the dharmic thing to do. So the whole thing, after 14 years of diplomacy, multiple trials at peace, willingness to accommodate over accommodate, almost several times being murdered, almost murdered and escaping from that murderous plots of the real dinar. His wife almost being molested in public by the reo, the nine brothers, everything He put aside and in that moment of attachment and grief, delusions took over.

And he could not think straight and the number one Cardinal symptom of Maha is we lose our way. We don't know what to do. And so it ends at a pitiable note at 47 we see that the man who won was 23 was saying, Take me yonder Krishna. Well, I can look on those even faces who are supporting my evil minded cousin though Yoda Dora booty, let me go there. And in order like, let me make a mark of who are all the people who need you know, a good, a good lesson today. There was this Arjuna the soldier and we see at the end Arjuna the brother.

That's what happens the soldier gets reduced to a brother and his pledge for much debated action. reduces to non action and righteousness gets covered by escapism and let me leave let me take some NASA even coats, even coat scriptures after all scriptures also say that that is the better way to go to stay away so he's even quoting scriptures to the scripture giver and so, is a pathetic case and I pointed out in my classes I we kept repeating himself also. So, this is a subtle theatrical insertion by the by the author vs Acharya to show that when person is clear minded, they don't repeat themselves. But Arjuna was repeating he kept pointing out local standing because adding local setting so we see Rogers attachment plus grief. And you know, in the brief we see he says, you know, see them the mama got three My hands are shaking The bow is slipping, My mouth is dry was a full blown, you know, panic attack.

This is the symptoms of anxiety neurosis, that's what was happening to him. And he was us I'd rather kill myself. So depression and suicidal tendencies, everything happened in that few moments actually. So then this leads to more Hmm. And he, you know, he, I think it's a shark case he says I'm done. I'd rather be killed by him.

So, you know, if somebody were to only read up to chapter one, they would think that Arjuna has given a lot of explanation why he should not be fighting this war. And at one level, they are all actually reasonable. So they are not unreasonable. So one would think that this is what happened Arjuna left the war and this is where we at whatever Want to point out to you is that when we are about to receive knowledge, this chapter is very important to us because there is a man is first caught in the samsara cart and the disease one doesn't even know one is caught in it. So all the way in chapter one Arjuna doesn't know that he is suffering from his own created virtual health. He doesn't know that he thinks it's very real.

So this is called experience of samsara. So chapter one is experience of samsara. But you know, when we open chapter two, which is a chapter of 78 verses, what will happen is very interestingly, that inverse three of chapter two, he will get a schooling from Krishna. I've had many students who get a schooling and then they're, then their journey begins. Some, some need multiple scoldings because they are. They need it.

But anyway, you get a schooling. You go over it later because of the scolding. By the time verse seven comes along. He, instead of just being God in His virtual world and his decision to leave he he questions he says, I have the I am confused. I can't decide whether I should because he had decided by the end of chapter one I'm leaving, I'm quitting. I'm quitting.

I have decided here are all like a lawyer. He had quoted all the reasons he should leave. But clearly, clearly, there was enough of a soldier and he was enough of Vyas person somewhere. And also due to the scolding, he got, briefly, short one. He said, Wait, oops. So should I go to war.

So in chapter two things turn, and instead of being very convinced about his action, he realizes he is confused and he realizes he is confused. So this is called. One is called experience of the problem. They are students and this is called discovery of the problem, that it's not them. It's me, I am confused. And then we will see that in chapter two, he goes up to Lord Krishna and says, Please, help me.

And then when he asked for help, so this is called asking for help. Once you've discovered you have the problem, you go to an expert for him. So this is called seeking help. And in the fourth stage, when you are ready A guru, the guru appears, and his friend transforms into a guru. His teacher or his guide, transform says occasional guide, occasional help transformed into guru and the guru became God. So it's like these are four stages experience of the problem when you're bound in it.

This is what we all go through like we've had an argument with our somebody, some relative or friend, really some employees some beer or some colleague really reeling in it. And it could happen both ways. We're either blaming them and in our Geno's case, you're taking all the blame happening. It's like a virtual world start thinking clearly. Then in the second stage, if if this is with you in the second stages, wait a minute, is this the only reality I need help. When you say I need help, then if you have an expert, then you go to the expert and say, Please help me.

And if the expert is willing to teach you, then you get help. And the disease's resolved so this is what happens. Chapter Two onwards. All right. So are you ready for some teachings from chapter two? Okay.

So like I said that in chapter three in chapter two, it is known as sankhya Yoga. But there are four topics in sankhya Yoga, and the four topics that happen in sankhya Yoga are the first one of course, is Santiago itself, Santiago beans. Sangha means nanum here, knowledge yourself knowledge here. So it's right away. He starts with his starts with giving from one to 10 we see that Arjuna realizes that he has the problem of samsara, that he is confused should you know he doesn't know if he should have inaction or action. He doesn't know.

And so he wants to paralyze, as Aparna said, he wants to be paralyzed, that was the word. And he but he saw through it somewhere by God's grace, maybe this was meant to happen. So he he goes up to Lord Krishna and says, you know, please accept me as your student and please teach me. So then from verse 11 to 38, we will have the teachings of Sam k yoga, which is like the big picture and you know, Krishna Lord Krishna gives various reasons for what kind of he should be action inaction is not an option. You have to take action inaction is not an option you cannot hide, cannot hide. And here is how you take the right action here is how you determine.

But then what he does is he's he gives three types of three types of British English we call it three types of worldviews. As in sankhya Yoga from verse 11 to 38, he gives the world view of the biggest truth possible that everybody's Othman. It's all Grandma, nobody dies. So it's all eternal. It's a game it's a dream, so do what the right thing to do. So he gave the very big picture.

And so that is known as the black Mecca, the spiritual perspective. That's what it gives Then from 31 to 33 he gives a dharmic perspective. You are a soldier so it's your duty go and fight. You know, you are a teacher teach a partner you are the d be the D. No Shani, you are the editor of Hamza be the editor. So it's it's a duty based This is what you gotta do. You got to tell this you got to you got to be strong here you got to be you got to be weak you're not weak you're soft, you're strong here mildly based on duty, what does your duty require?

What does a partner's duty require What are so homes duty require what is a Chinese duty require what is shown here, and they have to be accordingly like that. So that's called dharma. It's not it's not personal. It's not personal. It's your duty requires that like, right now when I teach you I'm in my attire duty Macharia talks like this. teaches like this correct slide this course correct slide.

This edits like this calls you like this makes you look at things a certain way. It's your Dharma duty, you do it. So that's another perspective that he provides. Then a third perspective by which he persuades Arjuna. To take the right action, which in this case, not every case, is to go to the battle and fight until depth. To for victory is called a local perspective or the worldly perspective.

This is why everyday people talk, but even that makes sense, but people will laugh at you, people call your coward. Come on, do it, do the right thing. So he even said that so there is the very big expansive, ultimate truth, which is Sangha you. Then there is a medium truth which is Dharma nanum, self, Dharma. And then finally world, Lucky QA. So he gives this third perspective So from 34 to 36, he gives a worldly perspective then then Arjuna things and he says, also there are really people who understand all these perspectives, and on top of that they become stable in it.

No, because we are all here in knowledge and sounds wonderful when we hear it, but when the time comes to fight that battle, we don't remember it, because why because that knowledge has not become stable enough, right? It has not become strong enough. So it says, Are they really people who are set up Rajma Krishna means knowledge and set them in stable and what do they look like? What are their you know, how do they appear? How do they talk? How do they move out?

They eat, what do they do? How do they control? How did they become stable in the system with all this knowledge that you're giving Krishna? So from our You know, I'm sorry I missed and missed in between and then after he has taught the spiritual perspective, the dharmic perspective and the worldly perspective on riches from 34 to 36, then from 37 to 39, Lord Krishna teaches karma yoga. So, first there was non yoga, then Dharma, then worldly perspective and then he even has a short summary of karma yoga which the whole chapter three will be about cameo, but he doesn't sweep it away, he kind of gives the full picture and then after that, from 40 to 53 is karma yoga. Then from 54 till the end, he talks about this tip approach now, what are some now Krishna is very curious.

There are actually people who understand me Yoga, they know what is their Dharma, they understand how to live in the world. They understand. They understand Karma Yoga, they have their living both the worlds lifestyles. Wow, who are those people. And this is where then we are introduced to the idea of how we all want to be. And that person is called a state of Regina.

And from 50 or four onwards, we listen about an ideal person, an ideal spiritual person who's also a nanny, who's also a karma yogi. And you know, and we also learn ways to be like that, how to control our mind and our senses. So as you can see, it's a very full chapter. It's full of knowledge. And in a way, all these teams will really come back in other chapters and more details. So you could say the chapter to my ideas is like it's like a window into all of bhagwad Gita.

That's why chapter two is called the essence and that is why chapter two is if people can't study any other chapter for lack of time or lack of ability to study for any reason, then they will choose chapter two because they get summary of pretty much all the topics okay. So that is something that we are going towards. Now, let me a chant to you, let us know let me share with you how in worse I want to share with you one verse from chapter two. And I'll share with you one verse on chapter the last chapter and how they are connected because Arjuna becomes a shisha so let me say, remember I told you that in chapter three, he got a slight scolding from Krishna because of which he at least stopped. samsara stop like, wait. Whoa.

And, and typically he instead of feeling upset that he got scolded, he said, Oh wait, maybe there is another way I should ask Krishna. So he says he chants Arjuna wacha carbonate Osho Sahaba with Charmy Tom, Samudra yesterday astonishes me. shisha stay humble, shoddy mom from prep on last line, she shall stay home shall stay home. shoddy mom Tom prep unknown. So this is verse number seven in chapter two and he says, carbonate Osho, pata Sahaba he says My mind, my mind. My mind is overpowered by a new kind of shabby Nora.

We know what the pitaka he says there is another dosha called carpenter, a carpenter means the door shop helpless. Have you all experienced it? powerlessness, helplessness, confusion, Misery, anxiety, and feeling stuck. So he says, My mind is overpowered by helplessness. There was some more data and my intellect my booty, my ability to think is completely deluded regarding what is my action, what is Dharma, what is a dogma, so this is Arjuna taking ownership is taking ownership. And he says and my intellect, I am deluded, I am in more, I'm completely Some moolah Moodle.

The word is stupid. I'm feeling stupid. Sometimes I have students surely I'm feeling stupid. guide me and that's student taking, you know, it's okay. Because of who was saying it was it so I'm saying it it's not personal, right? It's happening.

It's it's somebody it's for everybody so he says the hammer some more chitter chatter means to check on him I'm confused drunk Charmy so I asked you grew heated Tell me yet sir which is nice Chatham nichette I'm sure a harsh area means what is definitely spiritually good for me then please tell me what is definitely good for me so you give me the definite nice chat my definite response that is what we tell our teacher, I have this option and that option can be which is the fernet option, definitely good for me. And then he says, Uh hum de shisha Ha. Now, for the first time, they have had, there might be another 30,000 verses in Mahabharata where they have been talking, planning, strategizing, discussing, laughing, dealing with the situations in creative ways because Arjuna Krishna was like an advisor to these five brothers, but for the first time he sees I am your disciple.

A Hump Day, shisha shod beach and so, how many of you can show them he sits down below him. Because, you know, in culturally it is not written from Some it's not like written in the script that at that time or you know sat down but whenever we say Charlie Munger Putnam plum panda means that and I surrender my ego to so this is, you know, probably a painting where Krishna and Arjuna friends so he's, they are at a similar level. And now look at the next image. Now he sat down and said, Uh hum de Sha Sha de Mam, Putnam, teach me who has surrendered to you. So when we say surrender, immediately in our culture in the Vedic culture, if the teacher is standing, the student is sitting below, if this if the teacher is sitting with the student will not tower up, there will always be a certain protocol.

So he sat down and said, I have surrender to you. So the anshar the Mom shaadi means I don't know there are teachers who say okay I will just awaken you through my eyes through my mantra through my touch and we are not doubting all that. But shoddy mom. In our case we don't believe that a mantra or a touch can remove our ignorance. We want to be educated to a shoddy mom means give me systematic nanum give me systematic knowledge. I am surrendering my time, my ego, my sensitivity, everything I'm giving to you.

I am with you. In fact there is another word in this shloka it says now yeah God Bernie though sure Ba ba ba ba ba So Baba somehow means how I'm feeling my heart my mind. opa means my pata means like my discrimination faculty has become clogged, it has become blocked, it has become stifled, it is full of emotions and ego and confusion and angle and and past and present and future fields become and that is what is given birth to this helplessness. But we all get to study from Lord Krishna because Arjuna probably if, in verse three, Krishna scores him, he could have said you don't understand. You're not my kind of teacher. I know what's going on.

Many students do that. They can't take it they don't want sometimes when the students samsara is not correct and the teachers to say stop, wake up, you know it has to be stronger. to kind of bring the samsara virtual throbbing of the samsara at least for a minute it has to stop only then knowledge can be given. So what happened was that key but this is the sign of a good shisha that he actually samsara stopped stopped enough for him to ask for help Gemma stop and he said that please accept me as a teacher. Now it's interesting. Now you go through chapter two chapter three chapter four chapter five chapter six chapter 789 10 1112 1314 1516 1718 last chapter and our last chapter it ends on verse 17, which is some of the winding up verses but the critical verse almost towards the end is the worst 73 Here we see in chapter two beginning he's asking help me as your shisha Okay, and look what Arjuna says Arjuna hwacha Nash Domo ha Smithy na da da da Maya Jetta Santos Niigata, Sunday Ha ha, curry shava nom de.

So he's saying, Can you turn to the last image Thank you. This is the end is not only seeing his guru, he has seen the darshan of the man through his guru, Guru, Guru, Guru compassion and he says, In this last 73rd verse in the last chapter, I says, Mohan Nasha Nasha my mo has been, my delusion is gone. Smith he loved that I have remembered everything because we say that you have only forgot who you are. You're not fully sure stupid or crazy or wrong. We just have to remember. It's all inside you because you are a man.

So he says Smithy loved I have remembered. I have read by your gaze. It's not arrogance by your grace. And I remain now as Mr. free from all doubts. And then what does he say? He doesn't say, Okay, now.

I think I'm just going to fly around the universe or go on a vacation. And you know, says, Okay, so now I go back to the war. What does it mean? I have become a nanny. I know everything. So I guess I'm a butcher.

I go cut. I go, I'll go be a butcher. I'm a soldier. I go be a soldier. Right. When, when agenda gains all the time Thank you, sir.

Okay, I have the knowledge and I think I'll go around now that we can come in a community circle. That's it, okay. This is this is like an asleep person was a soldier. Now an awake person is the soldier and the awake person is not suffering from their own samsara they are not suffering and he says, I shall carry sheer virtue nom de I shall carry out your duty, or a cheetah or infallible, unchanging Lord. So, you see that the question is begging student had asked, please help me. I'm having such stifling confusion okata in my head, I am in my thinking and feeling faculties blocked.

And my 18 chapter is sick, my Mohawk my delusions are gone. I have complete clarity. So you can say that in a way that between In this verse, verse seven of chapter two and verse 73 of chapter 18, there is going to be a transformation. And if you are also keenly feeling it, writing it, connecting with it, thinking about it, because bhagwad Gita will only come to you once in this lifetime. So you stay with it fully, then what will happen is, you shall also transform, this is the promise, this is the beauty of it, it's a working as a working manual, it is not just a book. So you can also transform it.

So, this is one thing that I wanted to share with you. And do you like that? Can I see some hands? Wonderful. All My Children are is wonderful. Now, let us look at who is shisha.

And because he said, You know, he has become a chef, this is what we are understanding and because it's just so beautiful, you know, no guru will come and say I am your guru. I'ma cha cha Chara is the title. It's just a formal title of somebody who comes and teaches you scriptures. Johnny doesn't mean equal to go. teacher doesn't come it doesn't come and say, Okay shares I'm your guru. Okay.

Coven and your Guru has no meaning. student has to say, am your student be my guru? First of all, so this is the way it happens and student has to become Masha who is shisha? So I spending a lot of time in the Sanskrit dictionary this fat dictionary. Next time I'll show you I have a dictionary and I was doing some work because Baba had given me some understandings I wanted to clarify my own mind. So, you know all Sanskrit word come from root words, root words.

So, one root word can give birth to 5000 words and that root word and its meaning will remain in those 5000 words. So, if you know the root words it becomes a very creative language, you know, to know, so, the word shisha comes has has relationship with two root words, okay. So the root word is known as Chagas sh as so without if you can In Sanskrit, and that was shot and then Aki Mata and hafsa shots okay this is the shank olala shell shank okay. So shots now root word shots is connected with shisha it is connected with shastra it is connected with Shavasana it is connected with shastra many words and it is specially connected which is shown via dhara Neko Punisher. And so, the word route Shah's means Are you ready to connect, to chest eyes, to to sensor, to guide to control, to rule to discipline to go on.

Is that all the words? Okay now There are a couple of Sanskrit words do you know that? Do you know what is shastra? scriptures right? Do Shastras give you a commandment? Yes or no?

Yes. Do they govern your understanding? Yes. There is another word called Sha one Sha so no means the the governance by law, does governance give you commandment? Does it correct you? Does it punish you if you are doing wrong thing?

Does it censor you? does it want to take you in a certain direction? Yes. And there is another word called shastra, not shastra. Which means scripture shastra just means weapon. And weapon also, sensors you correct to if you're not going to listen to the government, or you're not going to follow the scripture then The weapon may come to you one day can happen, doesn't it?

So, to see all the things most people go they lose they get they get governed by law, which is, chasin or they get governed by police, which is shastra and other spiritual seekers. They like to be governed by what shastra scriptures Do you see, there's a conscious way of being governed and from shastra comes the name for the teacher Shastri in India Acharya is also known as Shastri Shastri, which means the one who knows shastra and Shastri also means the one who censors The one who corrects. If there is an Acharya who doesn't correct it's not an archer. Acharya, correct? Correct. Otherwise, student will remain in their samsara.

No Like the job of the editor is to correct. Anytime I write my book, and I send it to the editor, it comes back read, because that is their job. So the teacher's job is to correct the thinking process, right? So sensor doesn't always mean scolding from an ego perspective. We're talking about higher levels. And so this is Sanskrit This is a beautiful thing we are looking at.

Because even our jerk Krishna Ji had to censor our generous thinking, and then take him to the right place. So this is not feeling good spirituality. This is a real deal. And so, from this route Sha scum shisha. So who is shisha? shisha is one who voluntarily that's the word voluntarily accepts to be corrected by the guru voluntarily.

The You're correct me too much. I don't like being corrected. You should have corrected me not publicly but privately, oh, you corrected five times more six times is it too much then it is not shisha. Because the she shares saying, look on my own Indian workout. So you can correct me. Then rollin accepts rules, right?

Because discipleship has rules some of the rules, for example, that Aparna was sharing for you, you know, sit out be available, be present. And I didn't know I didn't hear because I joined late, but we always apart is always teaching these Vinay rules. So there are rules so that shisha voluntarily accepts the rules. Some of the rules are, you know, there that that are needed, so that the student can stay in a position for maximum receptivity of the piano So, the student shall say that I accept my teachers will over my will then. So therefore, the student the shisha says that, if there is even some disciplining disciplines like speech, discipline, food discipline, you know, lifestyle wake up discipline, mannerism disciplines such things meditation disciplines, honesty disciplines, then I shan't follow them voluntarily. So, you see, only obedience can lead to discipline.

So this is something you know, modern students really uncomfortable with the word obedience. Because I'm noticing some new new eight structural features one of them is waiting effect. underwear and dancing. song sounds true website What is his name? He's the funny spiritual guy. Very scary.

So he mocks gurus, and he is the latest should look him up. So, anyway, so yeah today I saw that he was live and he was wearing underwear and he was walking around and he was wearing leopard skin underwear. Because you know, Yogi's have strawberry leopard skin. So he wore a leopard skin underwear and he was frolicking about making joke of gurus. And he's the best seller, spiritual teacher today. most celebrated author by sound, sadly.

So those kind of gurus will not give you any discipline. Okay? This is state of the world today. But we are talking about Krishna. Bhagavad Arjuna. We're talking more Baba.

We're talking about a tradition here. And over here therefore shisha has a meaning. shisha means that I agreed that I need to be regulated. I, my thinking needs to be regulated, you know, my my behavior, the way my senses are going here and that needs to be regulated. So I have from time to time my sister teacher Michel sties, my teacher might say, Where are you going? What are you thinking?

How did you take this decision? Now you're regressed. So that is part of the job and this is how I will move forward. So this is, you will now remember shastra means weapon. shastra means scripture. shastra means governance by Kenyan government, and shisha means disciple who willingly at accepts there is a rule to the discipleship it is not random or I think I just take a satsang there you remain a sebastia but when you become a shisha, you voluntarily say, Okay, I'm now going to learn the way my guru shall teach me.

There is another route. One was Chavez and the other is shish. shish. Okay. She and then paid guitar shop, half Island fish. Select shish shish shish.

Shish means what is left behind? So what is shisha? After shisha surrendered? There we go. What is left behind this shisha? Isn't that lovely?

Okay, my ego doesn't live. What I was yesterday. I am not today that issue. I like that. No. So what because she she also means arrested you So shish is a residue of what?

When the ego was being purified what is left behind the shisha. And she also means the one who is taught, directed, commanded, disciplined, cultured, educated, mannered, and taught behavior. I know you people are all engineers, doctors, professors, lawyers, and you're like, What is she saying men are taught educated behavior, What is all this? Well, you can understand that this is a different vocabulary. This is a different type of understanding, this is not anything to do with the world. So, you know, for example, I may know anything in the world, but I had to learn from my grandfather.

How not to be violent in my speech, you know, or how not to be not to inflict harm, you know, but at the same time, be who I am Vienna Acharya be a teacher, do my job. So, these are new types of learnings that we have to undergo and for that we have to surrender something and whatever is left behind that residue gets instructed. So that is called Szish. So therefore he became up shisha when he said that suppose he said that the Sanskrit is shisha stay hum Sha de nom de Panama, I surrender to you. Now, something I want to point out that the shoddy mom is an important word it means Teach me Now, I really need to point this out to you. All this time, it's not like Arjuna had met Krishna for the first time.

Krishna and Arjuna as human beings in a contemporary time for related, they were related by blood. They were related by a just cause by dharma. And everybody looked up to Lord Krishna. So he was an advisor, not only to Arjuna to his brothers, to his mother to the whole family, a very key figure in the whole Mahabharata. And we see many episodes prior to the Bhagavad Gita where Arjuna goes to Lord Krishna with a problem not Krishna advises him. Arjuna overcomes that problem with that advice.

That's so he his changed his relationship from Krishna being his advisor to be his teacher, the difference if we keep going to our teacher for advice, I hit a problem in my life. I need your advice then the teacher is merely giving a band aid and that's okay we can reach out to a teacher for that. But if we remain in that relationship then it is like the teacher is giving the student a fish to eat rather than teach them how to do fishing. So a genuine shisha is not wanting a relationship only off Can you fix my current problem? My advice which is which is fine to go in an emergency or whatever because even Arjuna did that. But I ultimately the relationship between gurus She is in a genuine relationship.

Nowadays there is some understanding that some other understandings of Guru share but in the traditional understanding the shisha will awaken also to the inner guru. And for that what is important is that knowledge, what makes the guru have all the answers, and the student doesn't have the answer, the student remains clouded. So, the teacher says, instead of seeking my advice, should I marry this person? Should I fire that person? should I hire that person? Should I buy that house?

Should I sell that house should I XYZ so many things are there which the teacher may give you a more rounded out idea, but it is, you are you are subverting the relationship to remain at our advisor client level. Do you understand what I'm saying? When you want To go beyond into a Guru shishya relationship, then you quietly listen. And you hope to receive systematic teachings from that guru that the Guru is kind upon you, and they don't make an appointment that I shall teach your class and don't show up, they are showing they are committed, you show up and you keep listening, listening, listening, listening, and actually what will happen is your hidden will become clear and answer shall shine within you. So, that true teacher gives knowledge, though, and, and that is when the Guru shishya relationship happens, where Guru has the opportunity to give some knowledge understanding that the student may have few emergency issues which probably the guru can help but in the long run, the student knows that the answer is in this knowledge.

So this word Shadi mom is very important and this is the changing of the relationship from Krishna the occasional advisor, life strategy advisor to turning into a teacher of the awakening wisdom, the awakening of who, who are generally is so that he can say Smithy loved her, I remembered, I remembered, because after once Arjuna remembered, he went through some difficult tragedies in his life, but we don't have Arjuna going back to Krishna saying sorry, oops, and back to square one. There is actually a permanent transformation that happens as a result of this exchange. So this is another signifier of the shisha that the shisha is not just seeking to So lace for life, but is seeking the knowledge of the sense. This is the difference. That's what I wanted to come to that he wanted the knowledge and he asked specifically for the knowledge because we have countless conversations in the Mahabharata where he says, Hey, hey, hey Krishna, Krishna daurio, the nurse said this and Misha said this and Bruno said this, what do you think I should do?

Those are like strategic conversations. So much of the strategic conversation that didn't really stop Krishna Arjuna from having a breakdown there it he just got his because he was outsourcing his knowledge and his understanding to Krishna and then flowing it in his life and, you know, not really learning anything. And then he said he stood steadfast, he didn't leave. He didn't even take a bathroom break. Nothing is listening is there and he's asking Asking the kind of questions that are thinking student will ask. And then gradually It is really due to our generous questions that we really get to get get the essence of Lord Krishna teachings he was asking such intelligent questions that the whole knowledge got transferred into Arjuna and the knowledge itself revealed he had become complete, yeah become complete.

Even in my own example, the students who have maximum ability to take my advice on a frequent basis may have to be very vigilant in case that is only relationship they have. And sometimes I have noticed that those students are not transforming as much as acquire student who I've never talked to who is listening who may think I don't think I can ask for a quick advice. So, I will use knowledge you see the difference, one is an outside fixed one is an internal knowledge. So, I wanted to tell you that when some of you when I tell you Okay, no more I will not give you advice. What it really means is I love you. And I want you to turn into Arjuna because I know that you are capable of coming from that same clarity, I want you to deeply grow into what is your inheritance, which is nanum, which is Shakti which is power, which is clarity, and not simply, you know, at every pothole at every difficulty, seek one hand because then you will remain dependent.

So advice makes you dependent knowledge makes you independent. That's summary of everything and we do see exactly you know, Krishna is an archer Arya is actually really showing Acharya dharma. He barely spoke few words he didn't jump in, you then try to sort out the panic attack. I mean, after all, they had such a relationship, they knew each other, he had seen Arjuna grow up, he should have been hugging him and holding him and he stood there quietly, while Arjuna had his whole emotional, you know, episode rather, you know, and then when hours Uranus got ready to save maybe there is another option so it was an open mindedness then and said, Will you teach me is then when Arjuna started teaching and We have a receptive Krishna through all the way until the last worse. And we have a very generous teacher in the form of Bhagwan Lord Krishna all the way.

And at the end, the Sanjaya who's reporting this save that I might have become blessed to overhear this conversation and as long as they are teachers like Krishna and their students like Arjuna then we will all come through know that this is what it is. So we are about to enter from December onwards, worst by worse study, and I am going to ask you apart now, if you could send a poll out to the anchor students to see if they would like to meet me twice a month now. Otherwise, I don't really see how I ever go through the, you know, the bhagwad Gita, because now there is no story to tell. And often a shloka may take 20 minutes, 25 minutes one hour. So we're going to be really slow down because as the show goes out about life and not mine after life, you know, it's gonna take time.

So one, I wanted to know that if there is, if there is interest, once again, if the students are interested, what's the point of me showing up and a partner showing up. If more of you are showing up, then I can show up on the fourth, you know, Thursday night, second, and fourth or fourth, Thursday, also, second and fourth to continue our shloka by snow custody. And then in some months, we have a fifth Thursday and I was thinking that To make this study engaged, it's very important to have an engaged study otherwise, we will you know, because there is manual, there's Kareem yoke and then there is back to so we will pass on our yoke. So just be a lot of knowledge. It's important to process it together and that's what a sampradaya does he process it so I was thinking that in the few months of the year where we have five Thursday's, maybe I can give you an assignment.

And just like we had today, and I can request you know, some of you people to organize among yourselves with help of our nine some of the senior shows like in LA and you could share, you know, read out to each other discuss, I could put in No question because then the knowledge comes alive for example if Lord Krishna is saying that you know if he's saying that those who are killing are dead already you know those those that what does that mean? That's a very significant thing to say. So it's like I could give you one shloka two lines and five Thursday's are not always there so pretty much all Thursdays you're studying satsang This is extra work for the AV team. So hum but I want you to talk amongst yourself as an anchor group and come back and Aparna will then come back to me to let me know what is the war what is the interest?

And, and if says one day so hum is not there can is there backup for hosting this Meeting etc and then we can have a little more strength into our bhagwad Gita study. You don't want to lose momentum in that important chapters that are coming up. So that is what I would say to you

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