You are entitled to whatever you think. And you listen to somebody, what they're saying. You say, Okay, I hear what you're saying. That's it. You don't have to take it in you don't have to do anything. If it resonates with you take it, it doesn't resonate with you have the respect to say your right from your point of view.

That's what we're saying here. Whatever is being said in in these meetings, resonate, go with it doesn't resonate. Understand is somebody else's point of view and you go inside here to find out it's right. And you have to have a say in it. Yes. Then there is the point of proof, which is then the ego coming in again, that he needs to be right or he needs to be heard.

I need to be notice. Your bond is kind of like hey, I'm gonna prove that what I think is the right thing. You don't have to agree or disagree with anything. You know, you can just observe and accept what's happening. You don't have to agree with disagree, you will come to your own findings anyway. And when you go on it on a deeper level in terms of why and how we react to things, there's a deeper level in terms of self esteem, I need to be heard, I need to prove something.

And this is where the once you address in saying, Why do I keep repeating these patterns and learn from it? So, and this is what the whole point of are sitting here. Learning I learned from you as well, whatever people say, I think you're absolutely right. If it resonates great, if I don't resonate, I'll try and see from your point of view, and then after I'll think about it and look from your eyes, what you're trying to say to me, and this is what it's all about different perspective. Um, can I just ask about what you said about consciousness? All right.

I managed to go You said that the more enlightened essentially you become, the more the more crap that comes at you, etc. I think we all know. But is that solely the ego as one of you one of the women mentioned there? Is that solely the ego is saying, I'm dying, I'm going to fight I'm going to fight or is there something you know, our divine purpose? Is that is a part of the divine purpose as well or is it just solely ego? And when you are in Okay, now, let's start First, let me understand your definition of an ego first.

Well, the mind essentially, anything, anything taking you from now from a better word would be your personalities, then yes. Okay. Going. So let's start. Yeah, so whenever personnel is always changing, we've come up with that point of view, depending on what personality you're shifting to from moment to moment to moment. Yes, I understand that.

But you said as a few others in the group, and it's it's a common experience. That, you know, yeah, the more the more a piece, the more in the presence that you can become daily, etc. The more intensified the pain body or the ego or whatever you want to call it comes out it comes at you and to test you to trigger you. Yeah, yeah, pass the test you when you're out there going around, you know thinking that you get yourself centered and circumstances in the outside world will come to test you. Yeah. And it will be always the people closest to you.

And so when you're triggered Yeah, yeah. That's when you know you're being tested. And then it's how you react to it. Yes, but tested by what you've been tested by the true. So are you being tested by as I said, an ego that's afraid to die. You cannot be tested by the true self.

The true self is your highest self. You is always in peace and you're always in love. The rest is an external thing or the lower self, the below personalities or outside people with different personalities where your own personality will match them at that frequency. Now, if you were in your higher self, whatever that is, whatever is being put across to you, you know that you can not lower your frequency and join it and say whatever you say is your your point of view. I'm not going to buy it. Yes.

I'm not going to give that's about it. So you're saying those people or circumstances are reminders that you're out of alignment? I understand that okay. Only only when days a trigger the trigger. Yeah. So is that is it fair to say the trigger isn't really I know this already.

I know this intellectually, but the trigger isn't the person or the incident or whatever. It's, it's a deep buried memory. And that's what I mean like, I suppose asking is, Is there ever an end point to where the deep buried memories and all of that? Okay, I hear what you say, now what now? You have to take it one step up. Yeah.

You always creating memories from the present. Yeah. However, there is the energetic connection to everything of your past. So when you when you think of something that's happened in the past, it is not you. It is an aspect of you but energetically, you're connected to that Michelle, 10 years old, 20 years old, or whatever it is. And you then call it a memory.

Okay. And the teachings are, you haven't had this session with me. So this is the one when I was expecting you after Christmas to kind of see the change or the stories that you were telling me what happened when you went home? Because you were triggered, you know, you were here as soon as you landed. There. Yeah.

All hell broke loose. Because it's so familiar. The energy there and you could not hold it you go You were totally empowered by the family. Yeah. and is now about you going back and dealing with the so called memories and changing the memories because they are not you. However, you have not done this lesson yet you keep thinking is you it's a different Michelle All right.

Yeah, I I know that I'm Zumba but that's, that's kind of that that example of Christmas and all of that is an example of because I've been home many times and I haven't had that energy. So I suppose. Am I becoming more enlightened that it's coming that you cannot not be enlightened even when you know the work we're doing? Well, the stuff that came over Christmas I mean, must have been. I wasn't even aware that it was very there. There's no way I want someone to tell me.

Yes. That is no, no, no, you're kidding. The end comes with your able to look at it at different perspective, this is, you know, 500 600 700 frames a second. And you can see, it can be any of these things I can buy into. But when you specifically go down one or two routes, then you're going to hit the wall all the time, you're not allowing yourself to sit down and look at it from other people's eyes. What is it?

This is an old American Indian saying, walking their moccasins or something, see from their point of view, and in any shape or form of of discussion, argument or debate, whatever you want to call it, you're not you're not looking at the other person's point of view. I mean, in a way, not in a disrespectful way to that person, but why would you bother looking at their point of view, as in Don't you have enough for me anyway, I have enough to contend with, with my own point of view. So. So from your own point of view, great you that you're working with you, and if you get drawn in into the other person's point of view, I mean, why would you give me What? What is happening when you get drawn into the other person's point of view? God tell me you make a judgment on what the other person saying, instead of respecting the other person.

And by respecting the other person, you're respecting yourself. So that tells you a lot as well. There's no respect yourself. Everything is a mirror. Now we're really, really getting into some heavy stuff here. The days that I've been telling you baby stories are over Now, the question you need to ask yourself is why is it you do not want to have respect for other people's point of view?

Now this is a deep rooted thing, which you got to go back to little Michelle again. Yeah, right from that point of view, but because you came from a family where everybody else was something their their points of view down your throat and you switched off. Nobody wanted to listen to little Michelle. Yeah. And so that's where the challenge is for you do go back and look at it and resolve it. That's painful they do or they say like, God this is it and what do you think and then you discuss you know then you are allowed to say what you think and all that so when you go into a discussion in terms of when you ask somebody what you think and so yes you're allowing them to think what they say So allow them to say what they think and respected because you asked for it.

Don't say you're wrong. Oh yes but if this is to me by the way, that's not really my story at the moment if this is what you're saying about disagreeing with people and all that stuff, stop stop stop there. You see how wonderful his classes and talking to me and Michelle is me. Sorry, there it is. I did not mean it that way. I just mind reading you do all the time.

To make a link myself personally, and I thought no, this wasn't Nobody was talking about you. Because a lot of us can relate to it. Okay? It's not just your Michelle Aaron's right, we can all relate to that. So that's been a great example for all of us. Thanks for being down that route.

Someone was most of the numbers. were listening, you know, and say, hold on, I'm mind reading all the time. I'm always making assumptions in my head. I guess as a challenge because there are so many things with family or couples or partners that we know agree with. So it's like everyday encounters basically to you. agreeing with some with everybody, you know, so many things.

So you allow them to be who they want to be. Don't try and change them, whatever. If you disagree. That's my point. If you're gonna say that because it's against you. Whatever believes or Whatever you mean example because all these top is nonsense, give me a.

Okay, say okay, let's say my daughter's for some some Yeah, like the same things like, okay, they don't want to help me out idea, whatever. So I'm not going with their mess, please. Yeah. So they can discuss, oh, it's our maze, whatever. And so I have just led them to be where they want to be or if my daughter wants to be out every night and complete an example. So I don't agree with that.

So what happened? Oh, she's ugly because I don't know how we get into. So you you obviously forgot my son's story and when the age of 15 years old, he told me he wanted to be a drug dealer and I and I say go on, here's the money. 500 pounds go and be the best drug dealer in Wembley bow. He's not gonna listen to me. Yeah, so go if you go to jail, You go to jail It is also Okay.

I'll come and visit you. Your daughter wants to go out at night yeah, say go out. You want to get you know you just be careful don't get pregnant. No, I'm being serious now. We think we try to do the best we can As parents, we are doing the best. But we do not know that journey.

Maybe they come as well to precess off to see where the how we are going to be tested, which is true couples, couples, we are you fight all the time, wherever you are. That's not their thing. Like, okay, why do couples fight all the time? Because they don't respect the other person's point of view. Everything you look, look back in your life is about conditions and you have a choice. You always have a choice.

Now being with the argumentative person all the time. You listen to this, okay? You're not argue with you because Obviously you always have to point to prove there is nothing to prove. And he goes on and on and on. You just say La la la, la, la, la la la K. Ron, don't talk to me. You got to prove, prove it yourself.

Go and find a therapist and sort out your past because you need to always have the last say you need to control you need to do all the C go sort yourself out. And you can sit down in your space. And every time he comes, you say yes, you're right. No argument. Every time you write, there's no argument but where does it Where does the argument come from? From within ourselves?

Come on, guys. Help me here. ego. Ego again. Here we go. Let's call the ego personalities, your millions of personalities.

And what is the my teaching? You are not your personalities think you are not the true self. You know, personality is just unconditional love, receive pure love. We argue because we want to be It's that thing we want to be heard. Because we're always trying to prove that we are right. There is no need to ask.

You just if they if you say something and it's not accepted and that's fine because if they don't agree they don't agree. The third point is are being told that now you're very, very good. But in the beginning you always have to find out Yeah, understand and all that doesn't really matter when you when a child is naughty all the time, right? being beaten in abuse, right? That child is looking for attention Yeah, to be not to be noticed. And the abusive one is still thinks his love is better than being ignored.

And then you can go through your youth and figure all this out in in the crazy things that we all did when we were youngsters, because we are exploring you know, we, the whole point of our world is in what other people are telling us when they growing up. Unfortunately, we keep all those things till we getting older. Some of us haven't had the opportunities of The discovering our journeys like some of us, the only will discover your journeys through what a wake up call, yes, breakup of a relationship, big money loss, right health problem, you know, you also need to be connected to the right people to help you understand it and work through that in you. That's why I'm here. I believe I'm totally sorted. There is no such thing as you being sorted.

When you get sorted. Joe, can you please tell us about it? That was doing one with one of my students that moved to Australia. He'd been working with me for about a year and pony, which is direct demo student time. And she said I thought I knew. Yes, because this because you covered 15 lesson 17 lesson never did the exercises you got tested against and then she had an huge Oh Something happened at home between her and a partner.

Issues now my reading right partner was quiet and wanted to be in the social space. And she was thinking all sorts of things he was going to break up with me before the break up. Why not he break up with me meaning he was on the road, and then they all passed. All the other ex partners never came into play in ahead. completely lost the plot, but you keep forgetting you think you know you do lesson one, lesson two. lesson three, you know is the continuous thing.

And this is why the watsapp is such a powerful tool. You know somebody they're always in trouble which reminds you of your own situation.